Chip Tuning für den 185PS A1?

Dieses Thema im Forum "Audi A1 Tuning" wurde erstellt von 185ps_holland, 11.05.2011.

  1. tobiasMTM

    tobiasMTM Audi A1 Süchtling

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    hat schon 3000km auf dem tacho
     
  2. bastelonkel

    bastelonkel Lebendes Lexikon

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    weisst du wie mtm tunt
    ist es die software oder ein anderes steuergerät
     
  3. tobiasMTM

    tobiasMTM Audi A1 Süchtling

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  4. bastelonkel

    bastelonkel Lebendes Lexikon

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    danke für die info
     
  5. 185ps_holland

    185ps_holland Audi A1 Süchtling

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    tuner in holland gives 235ps and 355nm !!!
     
  6. Carisma1996

    Carisma1996 A1talk.de Legende

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    *lol* ... da will ich aber die S-tronic sehen die ohne Veränderung 355nm mitmacht für eine etwas längere Zeit als nur 6-12 Monate :D
     
    alexkem gefällt das.
  7. 185ps_holland

    185ps_holland Audi A1 Süchtling

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    the DSG gear box can handle more then we think,
    Found this from APR, which in all fairness probably have the best R&D in the business


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    Being headquarted in the USA we don't get the 1.4 TSI in any form for any VAG chassis. That being said, we have drooled over this little marvel of a lump for quite some time. After many months of research and preliminary testing, we were finally set to develop products for the 1.4 TSI.
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    We have researched the engine and transmission design from afar through all available technical documentation, have completely disseminated all 2500 maps in the ecu's, compared each component of the engine and transmission to other versions of the TSI and DSG and so we headed abroad to finally get our hands on a 1.4 TSI and work our magic.
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    Firstly, we wanted to find the absolute limits of the turbo and super charger forced induction system. Most of you will be pleased to know that we were able to see 30 psi from the oem engine with no hardware changes. We measured exhaust gas temperatures, intercooler efficiency, air intake temperatures, air fuel ratios, timing etc. and were able to determine that the engine could and would safely consume such boost pressures from a fueling and calibration perspective. Our concerns were the listed specifications by mahle and other oem teir 1 suppliers regarding the strength and safe operating parameters of the engine internals themselves. That being said, we feel we were able to determine the absolute ragged edge the engine can handle. That was our first step.

    From there, we began increasing the margin of safety back to power levels that were more easily maintained at our goal of a 250,000 mile engine life. Boost pressure was the first parameter to be lowered and we began looking more closely at the DSG gear box.

    Ratings from VAG are kinda fuzzy regarding the DSG and it seems that they can rate nearly identical DSG gear boxes on a wide scale. So, we determined the only way to find out is through real world testing. We work with other oem teir 1 suppliers in this industry and were given access to some of their internal testing and we collected our own accelerated life analysis as well. The results were certainly not shocking to us and were right in line with what we expected. Nearly all versions and variants of the DSG contain very similar or even the same internal components and the weakest link is still the clutch packs. Our determination is that just like the 2.0T FSI, the 1.4 TSI DSG is good to roughly 380 lb ft :D until the clutch packs started to wear prematurely. This means that you have plently of room in your dsg for modifications and that if you do experience a failure, its going to be the clutch packs which can be upgraded just like a manual transmission but command a much higher purchase price and a much greater level of expertise for the assembly. VAG doesn't even open up the DSG at the dealership level so if you do plan on going for more than 380 lb ft you should make sure you have some cash saved up.
     
  8. bastelonkel

    bastelonkel Lebendes Lexikon

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    meinermeinung klingt das etwas viel
    für 1,4 liter
     
  9. cactus

    cactus Aktives Mitglied

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    wich tuner is that ??
     
  10. RonnyD

    RonnyD Guest

    Noch etwas zum DSG......... ;)

    Natürlich kann man im DSG Steuergerät den "Torque Limiter" (Drehmomentbegrenzer) auf ein höheres Drehmoment programmieren.

    HPA u. a. machen das ja.

    HPA Motorsports Inc. - DSG Performance Programming

    Die Frage ist, wie lange hält die "Hardware" (Mechanik) das aus. :confused:

    HGP z. B. bietet ja allerlei verstärkte Mechanik für das DSG an, bestimmt nicht für umsonst, wenn auch für weitaus höhere Drehmomente wie sie hier erreicht werden.

    Audi TT Tuning

    Natürlich ist die Drehmomentbegrenzung werksseitig nicht auf den letzten machbaren Nm programmiert, Platz ist da sicher noch reichlich nach oben, nur wieviel bzw. dauerhaft wieviel ohne mechanischen Schaden kann keiner so genau beantworten. ;)
     

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